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Dredogol · Jun 29, 2005, 09:08 PM // 21:08

Hi, I'm new to this forum and game. I've been reading it and plan on buying it in the next few days XD.

Anyways, because I'm not sure HOW to search this...I'll post my question.

Is it better to make an Elementalist/Mesmer ...or a Mesmer/Elementalist?

I want to make a mage that can skill spam like crazy with loads of damage at a fast rate.

Mesmer
Okay...I know that "Fast Casting" is the PRIMARY and decreases the time it takes to cast a certain skill by quite a lot when it's Meteor and stuff. Also, I know that the Mesmer class has Mantra of Recovery that will do 50% Recovery time for good 5-17 seconds.
Elementalist
I know "Mana Storage" is the PRIMARY of this class, and cannot obtain faster cast having this as the primary job...but gets the extra Mana as the benefit.

My Question...
Which is better? Being able to cast quickly and cause Havoc on your enemies with having quick Magic spells...Mesmer/Elementalist.
Or...is it better to have a huge mana pool and cast at the normal rate using the Elementalist/Mesmer build?

I would like this to be a Pawning PvP or Guild support magician class. Also having the ability to freeze other players, then raining mass damage skills on the enemies sounds fun.

Forgot...2nd question
Just exacty WHAT skills does each Primary job Have the other doesn't? because Mantra of Recovery is part of the Mesmer's Fast Cast ability...is an Elementral Primary able to obtain this skill?
Basically, these kinda questions dealing with class specific SKILLS.

Thanks in advance everyone.
If you're lazy to post...a Link would be helpful

Mando · Jun 29, 2005, 09:11 PM // 21:11

I would go with e/me cuz u really do need alot of energy storage and you can get a ele wand that has 20% faster cast rate,which makes spell time pretty fast. i have a lvl20 Ele which has 79energy and if i don't pay attention to the enegry i can use it all in 4skills:O

Enigmatics · Jun 29, 2005, 09:12 PM // 21:12

Fast cast is nothing compared to energy storage. Even with energy leech you're fast cast'll make you spam like crazy -and not be able to do anything but recharge energy. Elementalists' energy storage is preferred, unless you're going for a mesmer build with lots of interruptions.

Dazzler · Jun 29, 2005, 09:14 PM // 21:14

Yep...all that fast casting won't help you after you get your 3rd spell off and don't have any energy left.

Given what you stated you want to do, go Ele/Me. Use skills like Glyph of Sacrifice to "fast-cast" your slower spells in a crunch.

Dredogol · Jun 29, 2005, 09:15 PM // 21:15

err...that makes me worry...

Just exactly How Much energy do u have at Lv1 and 20???

Sounds like very little from what you guys say....

If that IS the case, I guess what you just said about using the 20% faster CR is better than the Mesmer's Fast Cast ability O_o

Well, I'm new...so thanks for the input.
I think i'll enjoy my new build when I get the game soom ^_^

Dredogol · Jun 29, 2005, 09:18 PM // 21:18

GoS ??? are you crazy?

Why would I want to cast a spell then wait 120 sec for it to reload. Even with faster reload cast ontop...that 0.75 default wait is not worth that much of a wait in my opinoin...i'll be stuck and dead!

If it's like Meteor and stuff...oh..well...yeah, I guess it'll work because there Are more area damage spells.

It is the spell you Casted right..that'll be 120 reload...not the Next spell?

Enigmatics · Jun 29, 2005, 09:32 PM // 21:32

You'd have 40 energy default, more for mesmers with enchanters armor. And elementalists get 70 energy with level 10 energy storage (most common attribute top) you don't get faster recharge with the attribute in question, you get faster cast. Elementalist primaries ARE able to get mantra of recovery, but it can't be inproved upon since elementalists dont have fast cast, and it was never that useful of an elite anyway. Keep in mind you can only have 1 elite on your skill tab. goes with the "cant spam without energy" argument.

Jun 29, 2005, 09:08 PM // 21:08	#1
Dredogol Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Augury Rock Guild: [PUN] rank:5948 Profession: W/Mo	Ele/Me or Me/Ele? O_o;; Hi, I'm new to this forum and game. I've been reading it and plan on buying it in the next few days XD. Anyways, because I'm not sure HOW to search this...I'll post my question. Is it better to make an Elementalist/Mesmer ...or a Mesmer/Elementalist? I want to make a mage that can skill spam like crazy with loads of damage at a fast rate. Mesmer Okay...I know that "Fast Casting" is the PRIMARY and decreases the time it takes to cast a certain skill by quite a lot when it's Meteor and stuff. Also, I know that the Mesmer class has Mantra of Recovery that will do 50% Recovery time for good 5-17 seconds. Elementalist I know "Mana Storage" is the PRIMARY of this class, and cannot obtain faster cast having this as the primary job...but gets the extra Mana as the benefit. My Question... Which is better? Being able to cast quickly and cause Havoc on your enemies with having quick Magic spells...Mesmer/Elementalist. Or...is it better to have a huge mana pool and cast at the normal rate using the Elementalist/Mesmer build? I would like this to be a Pawning PvP or Guild support magician class. Also having the ability to freeze other players, then raining mass damage skills on the enemies sounds fun. Forgot...2nd question Just exacty WHAT skills does each Primary job Have the other doesn't? because Mantra of Recovery is part of the Mesmer's Fast Cast ability...is an Elementral Primary able to obtain this skill? Basically, these kinda questions dealing with class specific SKILLS. Thanks in advance everyone. If you're lazy to post...a Link would be helpful

Jun 29, 2005, 09:11 PM // 21:11	#2
Mando Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scotland Guild: Hells Angelz Profession: E/R	I would go with e/me cuz u really do need alot of energy storage and you can get a ele wand that has 20% faster cast rate,which makes spell time pretty fast. i have a lvl20 Ele which has 79energy and if i don't pay attention to the enegry i can use it all in 4skills:O

Jun 29, 2005, 09:12 PM // 21:12	#3
Enigmatics Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tenafly, NJ Guild: Defenders of Rillanon Profession: W/Mo	Fast cast is nothing compared to energy storage. Even with energy leech you're fast cast'll make you spam like crazy -and not be able to do anything but recharge energy. Elementalists' energy storage is preferred, unless you're going for a mesmer build with lots of interruptions.

Jun 29, 2005, 09:14 PM // 21:14	#4
Dazzler Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Profession: E/Me	Yep...all that fast casting won't help you after you get your 3rd spell off and don't have any energy left. Given what you stated you want to do, go Ele/Me. Use skills like Glyph of Sacrifice to "fast-cast" your slower spells in a crunch.

Jun 29, 2005, 09:15 PM // 21:15	#5
Dredogol Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Augury Rock Guild: [PUN] rank:5948 Profession: W/Mo	err...that makes me worry... Just exactly How Much energy do u have at Lv1 and 20??? Sounds like very little from what you guys say.... If that IS the case, I guess what you just said about using the 20% faster CR is better than the Mesmer's Fast Cast ability O_o Well, I'm new...so thanks for the input. I think i'll enjoy my new build when I get the game soom ^_^

Jun 29, 2005, 09:18 PM // 21:18	#6
Dredogol Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Augury Rock Guild: [PUN] rank:5948 Profession: W/Mo	GoS ??? are you crazy? Why would I want to cast a spell then wait 120 sec for it to reload. Even with faster reload cast ontop...that 0.75 default wait is not worth that much of a wait in my opinoin...i'll be stuck and dead! If it's like Meteor and stuff...oh..well...yeah, I guess it'll work because there Are more area damage spells. It is the spell you Casted right..that'll be 120 reload...not the Next spell?

Jun 29, 2005, 09:32 PM // 21:32	#7
Enigmatics Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tenafly, NJ Guild: Defenders of Rillanon Profession: W/Mo	You'd have 40 energy default, more for mesmers with enchanters armor. And elementalists get 70 energy with level 10 energy storage (most common attribute top) you don't get faster recharge with the attribute in question, you get faster cast. Elementalist primaries ARE able to get mantra of recovery, but it can't be inproved upon since elementalists dont have fast cast, and it was never that useful of an elite anyway. Keep in mind you can only have 1 elite on your skill tab. goes with the "cant spam without energy" argument.